12 December 2009: 'The Fifth Zhi' by Mercurio D. Rivera

[13:59] Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Jago!
[13:59] Sora Bluebird: hello everyone evening
[13:59] Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Sora, Camila, Primal
[13:59] Jago Constantine: Hey sorry I had to dash out and back
[13:59] Camilla Delvalle: Hello Rhia!
[13:59] Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Bobby
[13:59] Bobby Lomba: Helllooliuuuuu!!! / AIAIAIA KARAMBA!
[13:59] Primal Snowpaw: ello everyone
[14:01] Jago Constantine: Hi, Primal!
[14:01] Jago Constantine: Cool avatar
[14:01] Primal Snowpaw: ello, cheers ^^
[14:01] Jago Constantine: Hey Melch, Sora, Bobby, Camilla, Rhiannon
[14:01] Melch Savon: Hey all!
[14:01] Bobby Lomba: Hello Mr Jago, an all
[14:02] Rhiannon Dragoone: Yeah, Primal's avi is kewl
[14:02] Jago Constantine: He's hairier than bobby is xD
[14:02] Bobby Lomba: Haha! He should shave
[14:02] Sora Bluebird: hotter too :P
[14:02] Primal Snowpaw: lol
[14:02] Bobby Lomba: Hell, no, im damn hot!
[14:02] Rhiannon Dragoone: I like a hairy man / Bobby, ur hot? / I'm freezing
[14:03] Bobby Lomba: yes?
[14:03] Jago Constantine: lol rhiannon you should wear a scarf maybe
[14:03] Bobby Lomba: pff.... you can watm yourself on the hair on my manboobies?
[14:03] Rhiannon Dragoone: Jago, actually Im fine. The fire puts out a lot of heat / I may stand by it though
[14:03] Jago Constantine: Hey Martyn, welcome to the meeting
[14:03] Jago Constantine: take a moment to let yourself rez
[14:04] Jago Constantine: You can sit on those cushions Rhiannon
[14:04] Jago Constantine: Ok because this is a podcast meeting we'll start the program at about 10 past, for any latecomers
[14:05] Rhiannon Dragoone: i'd better see if my sound works today.
[14:05] Jago Constantine: This week we have a DJ, Sora, to play the track, so we should all be on the same page
[14:05] Jago Constantine: the same page metaphorically lol
[14:06] Jago Constantine: hmm did we lose melch
[14:06] Fuzz's Clicky: Sora fluffs up Primal's ears and plays with his fur.
[14:07] Rhiannon Dragoone: j'm hearing pulsating static
[14:07] Primal Snowpaw: ^^
[14:07] Jago Constantine: that's all you should hear until we start the track :) / We may as well go Sora :)
[14:07] Sora Bluebird: now?
[14:07] Jago Constantine: Yes please!
[14:08] Jago Constantine: This one is different from the previous ones, for variety :)
[14:08] Rhiannon Dragoone: okay
[14:08] Sora Bluebird: restart streams
[14:08] Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, then I'm good
[14:08] Jago Constantine: ok I hear it / hey ookami!
[14:09] Ookami Moonwall: HI Jago
[14:09] Jago Constantine: make sure you have streaming music on in preferences, and the play button pressed
[14:09] Rhiannon Dragoone: there we go
[14:21] Jago Constantine: Hey Tsukhoi, welcome to Science Fiction Saturday :)
[14:21] Tsukhoi Culdesac: thank you i love science fiction / Hi everyone
[14:21] Jago Constantine: We're listening to a podcast episode on the music stream
[14:25] Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Tsukhoi
[14:41] Jago Constantine: Hi, Glass, welcome!
[14:41] Glass Sorbet: salut
[14:43] Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Glass
[14:43] Jago Constantine: Okay ... so what did you all think?
[14:43] Ookami Moonwall: Intangeverse :)
[14:43] Rhiannon Dragoone: okay, my first thought is that the story was a vehicle to get us to udnerstand alien and clone perspecties
[14:43] Rhiannon Dragoone: The plot really wasn't important
[14:43] Rhiannon Dragoone: It was the memories and feelings and the way in which the clone related to the alien plant
[14:44] Jago Constantine: The father issues were interesting :P
[14:44] Rhiannon Dragoone: yes, and how the father made the clone seem special / And thought that was betraying him when push came to shove
[14:45] Jago Constantine: It reminded me of jack in the beanstalk ... and rogue moon if anyone has read it
[14:46] Jago Constantine: In rogue moon a series of clones is sent to explore a deadly structure on the moon
[14:46] Rhiannon Dragoone: not rogue moon
[14:46] Rhiannon Dragoone: I thought the perspective of a clone was well presented from the inside
[14:46] Jago Constantine: Thanks Sora, cya!
[14:47] Rhiannon Dragoone: Soya's leaving? / Bye!
[14:47] Jago Constantine: It would be interesting to have the story expanded, to see how the clones relate to each other before the mission
[14:47] Jago Constantine: What's that famous novel about clones ...
[14:47] Rhiannon Dragoone: "I Think I'm a Clone Now?"
[14:48] Rhiannon Dragoone: Sorry
[14:48] Ookami Moonwall: :)
[14:48] Jago Constantine: Where Late The Sweet Birds Sang, by Kate Wilhelm
[14:48] Jago Constantine: It's a classic
[14:48] Ookami Moonwall: Oh, yeah, I like that book
[14:48] Jago Constantine: A post-apocalyptic novel about a society of clones / That really gets into a clone's mindset I think
[14:49] Ookami Moonwall: In a much more psychological plausible way, I think
[14:50] Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, aren't we talking novel? More depth is possible there
[14:50] Rhiannon Dragoone: I think this story was good as far as its limits could take it
[14:50] Jago Constantine: yes, I agree
[14:50] Jago Constantine: I'm not sure about the voice of the stalk, it seemed a little funny :P
[14:50] Ookami Moonwall: :)
[14:50] Rhiannon Dragoone: well, hard to capture the mind set of a plant
[14:51] Ookami Moonwall: I bet it would have seemed different if we had read it
[14:51] Rhiannon Dragoone: Stanley Weinbaum, i think his name was, was the first to do so in a story, about Ocar the Venusian / i think that was it, anyway
[14:51] Jago Constantine: Yeah ... but I found this more funny than the voice of the worms from Will You Be an Astronaut the last month
[14:51] Rhiannon Dragoone: The stalk was a little too, well, like an animal
[14:51] Jago Constantine: oh cool
[14:52] Jago Constantine: Hi, Dawg
[14:52] Ookami Moonwall: It was a little like the reader wasn't taking the whole thing seriously
[14:52] Rhiannon Dragoone: in the Weinbaum, we see what sentience would be like when all you need is light, water and minerals
[14:52] Rhiannon Dragoone: Here, the stalk could be an anemonie
[14:52] Jago Constantine: what would the plot be for such a story Rhiannon?
[14:53] Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, its been a while. But an astronaught lands on a world, discovers, through clues, that the dominant life form is a plant, and tries to understand
[14:53] Rhiannon Dragoone: Again, like the stor we just read, the plot is really a device to allow us to experience psychology
[14:54] Jago Constantine: I just turned the media stream back to music lol / bobby - what did you think?
[14:54] Rhiannon Dragoone: Its not like the later Robot stories of Asimov, where we get to understand R. Daneel Olivaw's psychological changes during a plot driven story
[14:54] Bobby Lomba: ahja, had to go afk, so i missed most of the story
[14:54] Rhiannon Dragoone: Bobby, how could u?
[14:54] Jago Constantine: oh ok ... you can download the story if you want
[14:54] Rhiannon Dragoone: LOL
[14:55] Bobby Lomba: yeah i know:(
[14:55] Rhiannon Dragoone: Bobby, its worth it, for the psychology of the clones and the stalk
[14:55] Jago Constantine: http://media.rawvoice.com/escapepod/media.libsyn.com/media/escapepod/EP204_FifthZhi.mp3
[14:55] Bobby Lomba: okay, will do... / good, thanks Jago
[14:56] Rhiannon Dragoone: Nice sound this time, in my right ear anyway
[14:56] Jago Constantine: Ok so next week is a book report meeting, and after that there will be a hiatus
[14:56] Rhiannon Dragoone: The left had the static, so i heard it mono-aurial / i'll miss u guys during the hiatus
[14:57] Bobby Lomba: whats a hiatus?
[14:58] Jago Constantine: a break in the schedule
[14:58] Rhiannon Dragoone: its a kind of plant, Bobby
[14:58] Ookami Moonwall: :)
[14:58] Rhiannon Dragoone: no, really, it means Jago is taking a break.
[14:58] Jago Constantine: so there won't be a meeting on the 27th or the 3rd of january
[14:58] Bobby Lomba: a schedule changing plant! Christmas tree?
[14:58] Ookami Moonwall: Summer holiday?
[14:58] Jago Constantine: yes summer holiday for christmas :)
[14:58] Rhiannon Dragoone: Winter, where i am
[14:59] Jago Constantine: I think meeting attendance is lower over christmas anyway
[14:59] Rhiannon Dragoone: yeah, more pressure to socialize in rl
[15:00] Jago Constantine: yes :)
[15:00] Bobby Lomba: yeah probably.. but we got good time reading in the christmas
[15:00] Jago Constantine: Anyway I'm glad you all liked the story!
[15:00] Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, that's for sure. / I have some catching up to do
[15:00] Jago Constantine: I have to go to another event, so I'll see you next week :)
[15:00] Ookami Moonwall: Well, that was fun. I'd heard of escape pod but had never listened before.
[15:00] Rhiannon Dragoone: CU Jago / ookami, that's what's so great about this.
[15:01] Bobby Lomba: thanks for the meetin MR JAgo, sir... and happy merry christemananas to all!
[15:01] Rhiannon Dragoone: Gives u an excuse to hear a book or story u wouldn't normally have time for.
[15:01] Ookami Moonwall: Yes, glad I could pop in